Email Battle Over Religion: Excerpts

From: Jon H. <********@hotmail.com>
To: Dennis
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: The perversion of the Truth

As usual the Liberal media has taken the TRUTH and perverted it to fit their own ignorance.  In their condemnation of Phil Roberts' comments on homosexuality, particularly male homosexuality, the left has once again tried to fit Jesus into their own concept of an all loving and all accepting liberal puffball icon. They have compared Roberts' statement to those of the new POPE, who is reported to have said,  "who am I to judge." when asked about homosexuals in the clergy. The only problem is, that isn't what he said. What he actually said was: "Who am I to judge a gay person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people." The conditional part of the phrase is: who seeks the lord. In other words, seeks to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ. For Christ Himself said: 

Luke 6:46

New King James Version (NKJV)

46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?

Seeking the Lord means adhering to his word. But in the fuzzy headed brain of feel good liberals, the POPE words mean,     GAY IS A OK! Once again liberals are attempting to transform reality into to their own contorted version.To better understand their confusion, read the following article.
Furthermore, religious morals that deny the legitimacy of homosexuality is not bigotry. But forcing everyone to accept your perversion by law and force, is!
The Truth is, if you don't agree with Christ's teachings, don't follow him, but don't try to rewrite what his teachings are.

Jon

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From: Dennis

To: Jon H. <********@hotmail.com>

Sent: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:36:06 -0800  

Subject: Re: The perversion of the Truth

 
"As usual the CONSERVATIVE media has taken the TRUTH and perverted it to fit their own ignorance."

It works both ways and always has.
Your side, your agenda, your ideology, isn't better than the 'other side' it simply lacks agreement and remains stagnant in the limbo of disagreement.

Jon, you need to research this book you're quoting. It isn't holy, it is a manuscript written by men.
Blatantly and apparently on base discrimination.

-Dennis

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From: Jon H.
To: Dennis
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: The perversion of the Truth

As I said.  The Truth is, if you don't agree with Christ's teachings, don't follow him, but don't try to rewrite what his teachings are. There is no conservative perverted truth in this. If there is, point it out like I did.

That is you opinion, which seeks to reconcile all the discord in the world. I can understand you wanting to do that considering your upbringing. But the truth is not all things are profitable. If you are correct that it's all a matter of just singing cumbaya and eating marshmallows with other people, great. But if you are wrong and there are standards that GOD expects man to adhere too, you in for a bad time.

Jon

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From: Dennis

To: Jon H. <********@hotmail.com>

Sent: ‎12/‎19/‎2013 4:25 PM Subject: RE: The perversion of the Truth

"That is you opinion, which seeks to reconcile all the discord in the world."

Its not my OPINION. It is research. Easily accessible research.

There are no real teachings of Jesus. Just the hearsay of what presumably his followers TOLD other people, then they wrote them down.

 

Jesus never wrote scripture, (another reason I think of him as a hippie) you have never seen words from Jesus, just the gossip.

Luke was added to by the church because it didn't seem complete. Enoch was left out of the canon. A pagan emperor was the 'decider' of what was left in. The bible is redundant, repetitive to the point of being redundant.

It is pointlessly violent, and incomplete as a book of morality.

You have been commanded to kill anyone asking you to worship any other god besides god. Not save, admonish, ignore. Kill.

 

Lot's daughters got him drunk and they both had his babies?!

In Genesis it says that "Giants walked the Earth"?

After Noah's flood the tower of Babel was being built 150yrs later?

Moses was only gone 40 days and his people started worshiping golden chattel? 40 days, that was all.

Men are living to be 500yrs old?

This is childish!

 -Dennis

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From: Jon H.
To: Dennis
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: The perversion of the Truth

Where have I been commanded to kill any one who worships another god show me where I am commanded. As for Moses, and the people of Israel, that's. You and me. Read to seek wisdom. Not facts

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From: Dennis

To: Jon H.

Sent: ‎12/‎19/‎2013 7:10 PM Subject: Re: The perversion of the Truth
Seriously, are you lecturing me on a book you haven't read?

"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst."   (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

-Dennis

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From: Jon H
To: Dennis
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: The perversion of the Truth

I am not Jewish are you?

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: Dennis
To: Jon H.
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: The perversion of the Truth 

Wait, what?
This is from your sacred book. Who granted you the right to pick and choose?

If you can decipher what is and isn't 'righteous' in the old testament, why can't you see the hubris in accepting the fallacies in the new testament?
And if fallacies exist in the book from he who is infallible, why is what you pick and choose holy?

Who gave you that ability?
Who gave the men who wrote the book the inability to make it the perfect word of god?

Let me add one more tidbit; we are all guilty based on this scripture I sent you.
We ALL walk around bowing to our technical god while reading our phone.
We supplicate ourselves to it, Jews included.

Jon, it isn't possible to live a life designed to be righteous from a book with poor design.

-Dennis

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Christian Conservatives Agenda Exposed Through Bible Verse

Christian conservatives exposed through bible verses of their real intent towards the American people and their subservience to their corporate masters.

Romans 13:1-7:

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. 

For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 

Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. 

Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? 

Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. 

But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. 

Therefore, one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 

For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 

Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

What Have Muslims Done to Better the World?

 

28 things Muslim's have done to make the world a better place!

 

From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life. As a new exhibition opens, Paul Vallely nominates 20 of the most influential- and identifies the men of genius behind them:

 

1. Coffee!
The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was tending his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became livelier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions.

2. Pin-Hole Camera
The ancient Greeks thought our eyes emitted rays, like a laser, which enabled us to see. The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera a

3. The Game of Chess!
A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe – where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century – and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot.

4. The Parachute
A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn’t. But the cloak slowed his fall, creating what is thought to be the first parachute, and leaving him with only minor injuries.

5. Shampoo
Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil.

6. Distillation & Refinement
Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam’s foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today – liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration.

7. Crank Shaft
The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation.

8. Metal Armor
Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China.

9. Pointed Arch
The pointed arch so characteristic of Europe’s Gothic cathedrals was an invention borrowed from Islamic architecture. It was much stronger than the rounded arch used by the Romans and Normans, thus allowing the building of bigger, higher, more complex and grander buildings. Other borrowings from Muslim genius included ribbed vaulting, rose windows and dome-building techniques. Europe’s castles were also adapted to copy the Islamic world’s – with arrow slits, battlements, a barbican and parapets. Square towers and keeps gave way to more easily defended round ones. Henry V’s castle architect was a Muslim.

10. Surgery
Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi.

11. Windmill
The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.

12. Vaccination
The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

13. Fountain Pen
The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes. It held ink in a reservoir and, as with modern pens, fed ink to the nib by a combination of gravity and capillary action.

14. Numerical Numbering

The system of numbering in use all throughout history, math, geometry, accounting, space flight.

The most important contribution is the Scientific Method which Muslims invented and the credit has wrongly been given to Francis Bacon. Bacon was simply translating books from Arabic.

15. The Greeks are said to have invented algebra but according to Oelsner, it was confined to furnishing amusements "for the plays of the Goblet." The Muslims applied it to higher purpose.

16. Under Caliph Mamun, "Muslims discovered equations of the second degree, and very soon after they developed the theory of quadratic equations and the binomial theorem."

17. Muslims invented spherical trigonometry; they were the first to apply algebra to geometry, to introduce the tangent, and to substitute the sine for the arc in trigonometrical calculations. [For reference Carra De Vaux's "Legacy of Islam.]

18. Al-Nasavi is the author of Almugna Fil Hissab Al-Kindi" short extracts of which were published by F. Woepeke in the journal Asiatique in 1863. His arithmetic explains the division of fractions and the extraction of square and cubic roots in an almost modern manner. He introduces the decimal system in place of sexagesimal system.

19. "Abu Zakariya Muhammad Al-Hissar who probably lived in the 12th century A.D. is the author of "Kitab-ussaghir-fil-hissab." One of his important sections was translated and published by H. Suter in 1901. Al-Hissar was the first mathematician who started writing fractions in their present form with a horizontal line. A commentary on his treatise on arithmetic, written by Ibn al-Banna, gained much popularity and was published in French by A. Marre in 1864 and reprinted in Rome in 1865."

20. Al-Khwarizmi is considered the founder of Algebra and developed it to an exceptionally high degree. He also gives geometric solutions of quadratic equations. Robert Chester was the first to translate his book into Latin in 1145 A.D. which introduced Algebra into Europe. "In the 18th century Leonardo Fibonacci of Pisa...says he owed a great deal to the Arabs...Leonardo enumerates the six cases of quadratic equations just as Al-Khwarizmi gives them." Khwarizmi's trigonometric tables which deal with the sine and tangent were translated into Latin by Adelard of Bath.

21. Omar Khayyam wrote a book called "Mushkilat-i-Hisab" dealing with complicated arithmetic problems, which has been preserved in Munich (Germany). A greater part of his work to devoted to "cubic equations and his work includes an "admirable classification of equations based on the number and different terms which they include. He recognizes thirteen terms different forms of cubic and quadratic equations by the conic section method..."

22. Abul Kamil improved upon the work of Khwarizmi. "He dealt with quadratic equations,multiplication and division of algebraic qualities, additions and subtractions of radicals and the algebraic treatment of pentagons and decagons."

23. Abu Bakr Karkhi wrote a treatise on algebra known as "Al-Fakhri." It was published by Woepeke in Paris in 1853 A.D.

24. Famous brothers Muhammad, Ahmad and Hasan, sons of Musa bin Shakir wrote an excellent book on geometry which was translated into Latin by Gerard of Cremona, and into German by M. Kurtaza.

25. Abul Wafa Al-Buzjani (940-997, 998 A.D.) is the author of "Kitab al-Hindusa." According to H. Suter, It had a large number of geometrical problems for the fundamental construction of plane
geometry to the construction of the corners of a regular polyhedron on the circumscribed sphere; of special interest is the fact that a number of these problems are solved by a single span of the compass, a condition which we find for the first time."

26. "The notion of trigonometrical ratios, which is now prevalent, owes its birth to the mathematical talents of Al-Battani. The third chapter, of his astronomical work, dealing with trigonometry, was several times translated into Latin and Spanish languages."

27. Jabir Bin Afiah is the author of celebrated book, "Kitab Elahia," which deals with astronomy and trigonometry. "His book is noteworthy for preparing the astronomical part with a special chapter on trigonometry. In his spherical trigonometry he takes the rule of the four magnitudes as the foundation for the deviations of his formulae and gives for the first time the fifth main formula of the right angled triangle." His work was translated in Latin by Gerard of Crimean.

28. Abul Wafa (939-997 A.D.) author of "Zijush Shamil" (consolidated tables) popularized the use of the secant and tangent in trigonometry." According to Sedillot, "This was not all. Struck by the imperfection of the lunar theory of Ptolmey, he verified the ancient observations, and discovered, independently of the equation of the center and the eviction, a third inequality, which is no other than the variation determined six centuries later by Tycho Brahe." He also studied the quadrature of parabola and the volume of paraboloid. According to G. Sarton, "Abul Wafa contributed.

List compiled from: Yahoo! Answers U.S. and Yahoo! Answers UK

America’s Loss is the World’s Gain

Vivek Wadhwa

Fellow, Arthur & Toni Rembe Rock Center for Corporate Governance at Stanford University

Recently, President Obama made a startling concession to the Republican Party: that he would accept a piecemeal approach to overhauling America’s immigration system. "If they want to chop that thing up into five pieces, as long as all five pieces get done, I don't care what it looks like", Mr. Obama said.

This is startling because, for the past few years, Democratic Party leaders have insisted on an all-or-nothing approach to immigration. They would not agree to increase the numbers of visas for skilled workers unless the Republicans agreed to legalize the more than 10 million immigrants who are in the country without documentation. The Republicans refused to provide “amnesty” to the unskilled, so the Democrats let the skilled immigrants — and U.S. competitiveness — suffer. This is no different from the juvenile behavior you see in other democracies.

The President realizes the political reality and is trying to get whatever he can through the system. But it is unlikely that he will have any success on immigration, because House leaders are still reeling from their loss on the fiscal shutdown and will not hand the President any kind of political victory.

This is bad for the U.S. but is good news for countries such as India, China, and Brazil. That’s because the U.S. has been giving these countries an unintended gift: highly educated and skilled workers with experience in U.S. markets. It has been sending would-be immigrants back home, exporting its competitive edge.

Immigrants have always given America its economic advantage. Skilled immigrants made it into a technology superpower. Wave after wave came to America’s shores and brought with them their education, knowledge of global markets, and determination to achieve success. They made the natives think smarter and work harder and contributed to practically all of its technology breakthroughs.



Over the past three decades, immigrants have been fuelling the majority of Silicon Valley’s innovation and growth. My research team at Duke, Harvard, and UC-Berkeley documented that from 1995 to 2005, immigrants founded 52% of Silicon Valley startups, and 25% of startups nationwide (read this research paper). They contributed to 72% of the WIPO patents filed by Qualcomm, 65% of those by Merck, 64% of General Electric, and 60% of Cisco Systems. Incredibly, 40% of the international patent applications filed by the U.S. Government also had foreign-national authors (more data here).

Indians thrive in Silicon Valley. They have founded 33.2% of its immigrant-founded startups—more than immigrants from any other ten countries combined have, including China, the U.K., Canada, Germany, Israel, and Russia. Indians also co-author 13.7% of America’s global patents.

Despite this amazing contribution, the U.S. is allowing itself to bleed competitiveness. It admits hundreds of thousands of students and workers on H1-B visas, but it doesn’t provide enough permanent-resident visas to let these skilled foreigners make the U.S. their new home. The result is that there are more than a million skilled immigrants and their families stuck in “immigration limbo”. The U.S. only issues about 140,000 permanent-resident visas to educated and skilled workers per year, and there is a 7% per-country limit. This means that applicants from high-population countries such as India, China, and Brazil get the same numbers of visas as those from Bhutan and Mauritius do: about 10,000. It takes decades for people from these countries to become permanent residents. While they wait, they are generally stuck in the same position with the same employer.

I explained the reverse brain drain that is in progress and the consequences of this in my book The Immigrant Exodus: Why America Is Losing the Global Race to Capture Entrepreneurial Talent. In a nutshell, because of improving opportunities in countries such India, China, and Brazil — and out of frustration with the delay in visa processing — the tide has turned. Skilled workers are returning home in record numbers. In research that my group at Stanford completed recently, we found that the proportion of companies founded in Silicon Valley from 2006 to 2012 that had been founded by immigrants had fallen to 44%. This was not because immigrants had become less entrepreneurial, but because they could not get the visas necessary for starting companies.

America’s loss has been a huge gain for other countries. If you visit any top Chinese research lab, you will find returnees from the U.S. at their helm. The tech centers of both India and China are growing rapidly with the infusion of Silicon Valley-trained talent. These returnees are bringing America’s best practices and entrepreneurial culture back home with them.

American leaders are well aware of the damage that the brain drain is doing to U.S. competitiveness. The President has cited my research in his speeches, and I have been asked to testify to both the House and Senate. The problem is that in addition to the issue of amnesty, there is also a xenophobic element in the U.S. that wants to keep foreigners out. And there are technology workers prevented from getting jobs by their location, age, or skills. They are all rallying against immigrants and complicating the factional battles in Congress. This is creating the stalemate.

So America’s loss is the world’s gain.

You can also follow me on Twitter and read more of my articles on my website: www.wadhwa.com.

100 Million to Have Insurance Canceled by Obamacare!

Comments:

"This is was manufactured by the press.The roll out of the ACA is how these roll outs happen, they start out badly and then become indispensable as the bugs are worked out and it starts doing what it is supposed to do.The press spoiled by instant success by the supposed success of the two wars against Iraq and the smoothness of the American pull out last year expect everything to run well.It does not help that Fox News is the propaganda arm of the GOP bent on destroying the president and the Democratic party."

"+Drew Coulter I found your source, it's a CBS poll. You're being misleading. A mere twelve percent of Democrats favor repeal. Seventy-two percent favor amending the law. And I think you got this from a really shit place without checking it, because 72+12=84. That rounds to 80, not 70. You wouldn't have done that if you saw the source. I would suggest you learn to check internet rumours."

"+James Fraser I agree with that.  I never thought a big percentage of Democrats wanted to repeal the law.  The problem is, the way the law is structured its hard to amend it.  Delaying or undoing some things may seem like a good idea, but other parts of the law depend on those things so rates stay low or for insurance companies to not go bankrupt.  Amending the law in a meaningful way starts to unravel everything, which is a big reason why the Democratic leadership right now isn't offering anything substantial in terms of relief."

"All insurance companies change their plan yearly so there is no way for anyone to have a pre-Obamacare 'grandfather' insurance plan.... and the people who wrote Obama HC knew it.

 Also 63% of employer offered insurance plans will be changed (thus lose their current plans) but may offer a new plan costing 20% to 100% for those employees. The bottle line is Democrats were deceitful with their talking points."